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 Posted: Wednesday May 6th, 2020 10:16 pm
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This was a surprise as I cannot understand any good or bad reason for it.
Being so apparently unreasonable, I question myself if it could be something caused by me.But what? I do not even know how to do it so thoroughly (ALL Flags)
I noticed because I had setup a response 75 to zone 1 as it is always nice to have an audible response to testing.
It was chiming before firmware upgrades performed on all modules (see previous topic).Right after FW upgrades I heard no more chime and thought it was something with the sensor on zone 1. Played response 75 directly from Configurator and no chime.I assigned zone announce to zone 1 and it was working fine.I played DoorPhoneChime (response 67) and chime was played
Response 75 tests Flag1=0 to play the sound (although it says it tests Flag16 - old error)I checked the flags and they were all set to ON.Cleared Flag1 and chime was again OK with response 75
Then I looked if I could Write Selectively Flag1 to 0 from Configurator to Comfort (just to check)I found I could not (no selection) Therefore I could not have done ALL Flags ON this way.
So, my questions are:
  1. Is it supposed to start with all Flags ON as default (previously all flags OFF) ?
  2. If yes, why ? and how it helps ?
  3. If not, how can that possibly have happened to me ? How can that be done, even if unintentionally
  4. How can I "undo" ALL Flags ON and set them OFF?
ThksCarlos



 Posted: Thursday May 7th, 2020 04:37 am
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Yes in this firmware if the system is new, all flags are turned on by default. The next firmware will fix this
For now I suggest that you go to the Comfort Registers screen and turn off the flags that you are using by checking the box for the flags

see    http://www.comfortforums.com/forum126/4677.html for Comfort Registers window


Last edited on Thursday May 7th, 2020 04:37 am by slychiu



 Posted: Thursday Jan 16th, 2025 01:14 pm
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slychiu wrote: ... The next firmware will fix this


I guess this must have changed again - I've just upgraded to firmware 8.013 and my flags all defaulted to ON which was a surprise as I got some unexpected actions in my system.
A long time ago I'd previously had to add a Startup response to default some flags to ON as they all used to default to OFF after an upgrade (or power of). 
I guess to be safe now I should make my Startup response set all of the flags I care about to either ON or OFF (depending on their behaviour) so that I know the system will start in a guaranteed state



 Posted: Monday Jan 20th, 2025 12:30 am
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Ultra Firmware 8.013 was the first version to implement saving of Flags and the first 32 counters into EEPROM. If you upgrade to that firmware or later from a previous version, it will load the flags and counters from EEPROM. The EEPROM locations would initially be FF or all 1s so all flags would be set to 1 and counters to 255. 

Once the flags and counters are changed, any reset or power cycle or firmware upgrade will not change the state of the counters and flags.

You can test by powering off and on the comfort and check the stateof the counters ands flags



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ok, thanks, I guess I can remove my Startup response then which sets my flags



 Posted: Tuesday Jan 21st, 2025 04:25 am
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You can download ULT 8.017 from here http://www.cytech.biz/download_files.php?item_id=1456 

Let me know if that fixes the problem



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Oh, sorry, I'm a little confused now. I'm already on 8.013 and you said above that 8.013 was the first firmware to remember the flags etc. What changes would v8.017 give me?



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The main difference is if you upgrade to 8.017 from a firmware before 8.013 the flags would not be set to 1, but since you are already on 8.013 it makes mp difference as th flags wll not beaffeted any any more upgrades so you dont need to upgrade at the momentsorry for the confusion



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