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ident
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 Posted: Saturday Mar 10th, 2007 09:38 am
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The picture of Scotts mockup was not visible when I replied. Nice work! The slotted speaker holes should be no problem, not sure how the metal buttons could be achieved though


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 Posted: Saturday Mar 10th, 2007 09:52 am
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At the simplest level these could just sit over the exsisting ones but as you say a new pad would be better.

Do we need a poll to see if a new plate is wanted or worthwhile? How do we move this forward?

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 Posted: Saturday Mar 10th, 2007 10:29 am
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ident wrote: The picture of Scotts mockup was not visible when I replied. Nice work! The slotted speaker holes should be no problem, not sure how the metal buttons could be achieved though



Maybe something like Clipsal's idea with their reflections series.

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 Posted: Monday Mar 12th, 2007 06:09 am
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One thing i need to highlight, the keypad normally just side by side with switches either conventional switches or system switches, i think maybe the shape can be same with switches, the length longer i think shouldn't be problem, and the keypad make it more simple and plain because all the information will show at LCD and all the operation is through voice prompt, i think we don't need to have so many icon. Or maybe can make it sliding, the keypad will hide it.

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 Posted: Monday Mar 12th, 2007 05:20 pm
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Hi Everyone,

Thanks for the feedback received so far!

The prototype faceplate was manufactured really quickly as a discussion topic rather than making a working model to see how close we were to the mark. We wanted to know if the finish was acceptable to the market in general.

Things like size, shape and type of metal could come as options although brass is possible but way more expensive, additional company logo's may also be possible too at a premium of course ;) 

One suggestion on the volume control was to mount it through the front plate. We will look at this in our next iteration (which will have a back box and a mic slot).

Although we are constrained by some aspects of the original design, we would welcome any comments on how we can make the design better. We can't promise to indulge everyone's desires but we will certainly try to incorporate the most requested features.

Cheers,

Jon 

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 Posted: Wednesday Mar 21st, 2007 03:02 am
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Glad to see that this has generated so much comment. I cannot add much more to  what has already been said.  From my view this has to happen.  The design I think needs to allow for a face plate of a range of materials.  Small range.

Stainless steel is ok for a limited range of houses.    Plain flat white is the most generic.  Next would be a frosted glass like the Clipsal switches.  Gloss finishes show finger marks too easily, so prefer mat finishes.

In summary.  Concept is great,  this needs to be done.  Have to solve the volume control issue.  Maybe it comes a slider ( ugly ), or rearange the wheel so that it is 90 Degrees to the plane of the face plate and protrudes through the plate just enough to catch the finger.  It must sit flush the with a plaster wall.  For solid the hole needs to be cut for a back box of some sort. 

Have it designed in such a way as to allow a plate of a different material ( customer/architect ) choice to be attached.

Regards  Ian 

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 Posted: Sunday Mar 25th, 2007 06:38 pm
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If these are able to be flush mounted then I'd order 4 of them tomorrow!

Yes it can be improved on, I'm sure, but only with changes in PCB, buttons, etc. This I know ( I have worked for a manufacturer) will take time. For now this looks like a good solution, brushed stainless and white would be my choice for finshes (White = white used on MK Edge white plates)

Thanks (and err, where do I send the order.........?)

Nick


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 Posted: Sunday Mar 25th, 2007 06:49 pm
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Ian, I know you did some mock-ups / graphics in a previous post could you post them here as well? Would be good to put all the thoughts in to the mix.

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 Posted: Monday Mar 26th, 2007 06:27 am
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Hello All,

here are the images that Garry is referring to.  They are the integrator section of the forum.

Regards  Ian

 

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 Posted: Monday Mar 26th, 2007 06:53 am
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Ian Clarke wrote: Hello All,

here are the images that Garry is referring to.  They are the integrator section of the forum.

Regards  Ian

 

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 Posted: Monday Mar 26th, 2007 07:05 am
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Second image.

The purpose of these is to show how we could use the exiting keypad and cover it.

These would be expensive to mould in plastic. May as well do a new keypad.  But it does raise the option of having a wall box made,  that holds the keypad and covers it.  The wall box could have a door of, stainless steel, ( polished, or brushed, frosted glass,  ( ala Clipsals cool popular look), white metal,  a mirror, what ever.

As this is not molded, small quantities could be made, at a resonable cost.

These would not look as good as this design,  but achieve the desired purpose which is to negate the objection to the appearance of the keypad, which is costing us sales.

Regards  Ian

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 Posted: Tuesday Jul 24th, 2007 04:49 pm
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This is a must.


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