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 Posted: Saturday Aug 10th, 2013 08:20 am
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UCM heatmiser

Do you have a release date for this product?

I do hope that the UCM Heatmiser will be a totally dedicated UCM.

This makes things so straightforward and it means that the UCM is identified (even by scanning) in the software.

Also it means that you have a dedicated set of responses and functions.

I think you should do this woth Lutron (the new QS which interacts with Homeworks and Grafiq eye) and RAKO and indeed any other UCM that currently is NOT DEDICATED.



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The Heatmiser UCM is being tested with Comfigurator 3.7.3
We do not have a fixed release date, but once it is ready it will be announced as usual
It is a dedicated UCM

Dedicated UCMs like Heatmiser, Cbus, KNX, Zwave require a lot of development and time, so it is not feasible to develop dedicated UCMs for every interface that can be  supported by the Universal UCM unless there is sufficient demand

The most important thing is 2 way interfaces for Lutron and Rako etc are possible with Comfort right now with the Universal UCM. If the usage of these imterfaces can reach the level where it can be economically justified then we may go the dedicated UCMs



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This reminds me again about how cool it would be to have a Cytech matching enclosure that is designed to house just these dedicated ucms. Maybe narrower than current chassis but maybe allowing say up to 6 in the case; 3 base + 3 stacked say. So we can place one of these next to our current enclosure. Maybe time to refresh and create a new range of cool enclosures?



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why not use the EN01 enclosure 310 x 350 x 95 mm which is smaller than EN03 (358 x 385 x 95 mm)



you can mount several UCMs in there



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Hi All,

I have seen the Heatmiser UCM so it is on my buy list. Can you confirm how it will function?

My Wi-Fi Heatmiser thermostat has wake up, leave, return, and bed time setting. I would obviously want to override these setting if the alarm was in a one of the off, home or away mode. How would I code regular checks to compare alarm status and set temprature?

On the surface I think the important setting is away mode where I would want to keep the temp low. I cant see how this would be programmed.

The other event I can think of which is easier to programme is if I am in the house (I guess the thermostat would take care of itself on the whole), however, if we occupy the master bed or lounge for more than 15mins the alarm status changes to day mode so it will be nice to ensure the temp was right at this point.

When will the programme doc's be released?

Oh... if I need to expand my enclosures what it the cheapest way todo this.

Buy enclosure, psu, tamper switch and battery as seperate items or buy an expansion enclosure?

Cheers

Lee



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The UCM/Heatmiser will allows you to override the setpoints
You can do this in the Away Mode, Night Mode, Day Mode, Security Off Response
Look in Events > Misc Responses
We are currently writing the manuals

For your 2nd question, yiou can buy these separate if  you need
The EN01 enclosure is smaller and is hinged with  a lock and key



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Thanks, I will get one on order then.

I don't need an extra ETH board do I?



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I forgot to mention that the UCM/Heatmiser is without an interface
You have to order ETH or AUX485 depending on the heatmiser type that  yu have



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Do you have a date yet for the heatmiser interface.

Any info at all would be useful.



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The UCM/Heatmiser  comes without an interface - it can be AUX485 or ETH depending on the heatmiser
The UCMHeatmiser with AUX 485 can be ordered now
The parts are ready but the firmware is still being tested which will take 1 month

The new Comfigurator 3.7.x is also needed which will be released around that time

If you need to install, you can order and upgrade the firmware  next month

The ETH interface is also a special which is not ready yet, also may take one month



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Can you provide more info on the relationship between the RS485 and the heatmiser model nos etc


Tnks



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We are coming out with the UCM heatmiser  soon
If you run Comfigurator 3.7.5 the heatmiser configurator will give you the idea

Here is how it basically works

The Learn Heatmiser button will detect the Heatmiser modules and properties
You can then assign Comfort Sensors to Temperatures, Flags to on/off settings and comfort Counters to setpoints

Changing the values of the mapped counters wll change the setpoint on Heatmiser



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Yeah this has confused me too as on the Heatmiser wiring/connection diagrams there is no mention of an RS485 connection point.

Also from the confusing conversations I had with Heatmiser technical support I believe that you cant have WIFI and RS485 in the same solution; I wanted to connect RS485 to Comfort but still have WIFI between thermostat and UH1-W/RC1-W. Apparently that's not possible?

It seems I'll probably just go for the Eth3 version then as simpler to get my mind around.

Maybe this can be clarified though.

Julian



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See the back of a Heatmiser Module  below
The Yellow and Blue wires are the RS485 signals. Yellow is A, Blue is B to be connected to UCM/Heatmiser(485)
These are probably connected to UH1 for all the Heatmisers

I dont see any reason why you cannot have RS485 and wifi if there are separate systems, not the same network and you have 2 UCM/Heatmisers

Attachment: heat485.jpg (Downloaded 64 times)



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Ident,

Getting there but the yellow and blue wires; what are they connected too as they don't seem to be going to the provided terminals. Are they already connected to the device as shipped then as they look to disappear around the side of the terminals into the case and presumably PCB.

Julian



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So only some have the RS485 connections then. is it the models with "N" suffix?

Attachment: HMDiagram.jpg (Downloaded 65 times)



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I think what I was trying to say badly before then is that while the UH1 has Y&B connections the UH1-W doesn't seem to so to have a WIFI thermostat that you can access via a mobile using Heatmisers android app means you must have the Eth3 version too. No hybrid solutions.



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N suffix means Network thermostats. That means RS485 models so you can connect at UH1



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So you are suggesting this then?

Attachment: HMDiagramMod.jpg (Downloaded 64 times)



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You have got it



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