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Comfort to Hometronic (Basic How to)
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ndh
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 Posted: Tuesday Nov 13th, 2007 05:58 pm
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An outline on interfacing Hometronic to Comfort.  More to follow......

Comfort can control Hometronic Lifestyles via a Hometronic HX10.

This gives 5 Lifestyles (via '5 sensors' on the Hometronic Menu).

This can be an X10 (A1 - A5) Mode (not tried) or 5 O/C Outputs (not tried) or Relays Mode (tried)

I think there can be up to 3 x HX10 i.e. 15 Lifestyles.

From Dean at Sensible Heat:

For the purposes of simplicity and explanation we'll assume the normal (non-active) state of the input[s] is open circuit, active is when contact closes.
 
All inputs 1-5 transmit status to the Manager unit upon change of state.
 
At the Manager, Lifestyles can be invoked at either or both the 'up' edge of a contact closure (open to closed) or 'down' edge of a contact closure (closed to open).
 
The Lifestyles take place temporarily, in such a way that rooms set to fixed temperatures during activation of a Lifestyle stay at that setting until their Time/Temperature Schedule (used for normal operation) goes through a scheduled switching point, even if the input which brought about the Lifestyle is still active.
 
Once all rooms have been through a switching point the Lifestyle is cleared, hence generally Lifestyles only last up to 24 hours or so.
 


Only Input 1 differs...
Input 1 (if DIP1 set) will retransmit every 2 mins after contact close as long as the contact remains closed.

 
Hence to gain permanent activation of a Lifestyle using HX10 inputs without being cleared by Time Schedules, either use input 1 with the relevant DIP setting, or program Comfort to re-activate the input (whichever) periodically every hour or half-hour say.
 
Lifestyles are mutually exclusive, only the last called is active and supersedes other previously activated Lifestyles. They can also be called or scheduled through the Manager Unit.
 
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So if Relay on Comfort Output 8 is linked to HX10 Input 1
 
Response: Hometronic_1
 
Output Output08 On
Output Output07 Off
Output Output06 Off
Output Output05 Off
Output Output04 Off
 
 
 
Then use the Hourly Misc Event to repeat and override Time Schedules.
 
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Note also that there is probably a fair bit of duplication / overlap of functionality / modules  between Hometronic and Comfort e.g. dial-in.
 
I will try and get a link to the HX10 manual.
 
Nigel
 

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 Posted: Monday Jan 21st, 2008 07:36 am
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Also belive that there is a comms port to Hometronic. However this is a bit of a closed shop requiring someone like Cytech to buy the rights to develop integration via this. Think Crestron and AMX have done this already.

ndh
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 Posted: Monday Jan 21st, 2008 09:38 am
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I'll follow this up with Sensible Heat when I next talk to them?

Anyone else got info?

Nigel

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 Posted: Monday Jan 21st, 2008 12:40 pm
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garym999 wrote: Also belive that there is a comms port to Hometronic. However this is a bit of a closed shop requiring someone like Cytech to buy the rights to develop integration via this. Think Crestron and AMX have done this already.


Buy rights to integrate with their products? I dont think they live in this century :shock:

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 Posted: Monday Jan 21st, 2008 01:38 pm
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I think is called locking you in and minimising competition?


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