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Interesting, where do you get these from? Are the walls plastic or metal?
How does one order one?
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| Posted: Wednesday Feb 13th, 2013 07:40 am |
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I developed these myself some years ago, I was looking at funding to get it tooled up in plastic but unfortunately it never got off the ground.
What you see are all prototypes - we installed quite a lot of them.
I still have all the parts can make one up and send it across to you if you want......
The whole thing is designed to be modular - i once had a comfort set up in a really odd shape - we had master tel ADSL and comfort tel extensions in one enclosure the main pcb in another UCMS in another relays door phone and fire all in different parts of the overall enclosure.....
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Hi idheath
Yes I have one of these as my main case for Comfort too but just purchased a new Cytech EN03 case for expansion. I must say that my original one which I was I think manufactured in the UK (by now defunct distributer Comfort Home Controls) is noticeably superior in build quality though!!
But we use what we have today.
JulianLast edited on Saturday Sep 28th, 2013 11:17 am by juwi_uk
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I suggest to use EN01 instead of EN03 if you do not need to meet EN50131 requirements
It is slightly smaller 310 x 350 x 95 mm instead of 358 x 375 x 95 mm and has a hinged door and key so it is easier to open and close
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Hi Chiu, thanks.
I'm struggling a bit with my new EN03 and I guess I would too with the EN01 because of the fact that cable entry points are via the rear cut-outs and there are no top and bottom access points as per my original UK made EN03 variant.
So if I surface mount and feed in cables from the surface via finger trunking then I'm struggling to feed cables up behind the chassis. OK for alarm cables but it looks like to feed a network cable behind I need to loosen the case from the wall to allow the RJ45 plug clearance.
Fitting not as easy as I was expecting. A few more entry points (as above) in a "EN03a" model would be useful in future I'd say.
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Entry points on the side are not allowed by EN50131
You can thank the wisdom of your authorities for introducing these "standards"
That is why we recoommend EN01 for those who are not inrerested in complying this EN50131
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What are the options PSU wise when powering a 2nd cabinet (either an EN01 or EN03) when this cabinet only has UCMs in it.
I can see in the UK that the EN03 is available with a transformer but I assume that's intended to be connected to the mainboard for rectification/regulation etc.
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You do not need the transformer for UCMs
I dont know if the EN03 is already with the transformer bit it does not cost very much, so you can leave it connected or remove it
EN01 is smaller 350 x 310 x 95 mm but it may not be stocked in the UK, but not sure about that
Both have some mounting locations for UCMs
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ident wrote: You do not need the transformer for UCMs
I dont know if the EN03 is already with the transformer bit it does not cost very much, so you can leave it connected or remove it
EN01 is smaller 350 x 310 x 95 mm but it may not be stocked in the UK, but not sure about that
Both have some mounting locations for UCMs
What I mean is I need a 2nd cabinet to cater for my extra UCMs etc because there's no room in the original cabinet. I also assume that the existing PSU (in the original cab) won't be able to power everything.
So I assume I need a 2nd cabinet and that this cabinet needs its own PSU (ideally along with battery backup).
My query is what's recommended in this instance.
Thanks.
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| Posted: Friday Jul 4th, 2014 12:21 am |
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I went through a similar exercise recenty and purchased an en03 and mounted it. I also thought that whilst I was at it I might as well buy a slave as well to cater for future expansion as they are pretty cost effective. I then purchased a power supply from cytech and a backup battery from maplins.
One thing to watch out for that hopefully cytech have fixed since was that the power supply didnt come with a fused connection block which they sent me shortly after.
I have my en03 populated with 3 extra ucms and doesn't seem to matter if I power from the slave power supply or directly from the rs485 bus powered from the main unit via ka/kb.
Hope this helps.
Julian
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If your 2nd enclosure just holds UCMs, these can be supplied only from Comfort or the Slave. Only Comfort and Slave have built-in battery chargers to charge a battery
There is no separate PSU in Comfort
But if you just add a few UCMs these should not need an additional PSU as they do not require much current
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ident wrote: If your 2nd enclosure just holds UCMs, these can be supplied only from Comfort or the Slave. Only Comfort and Slave have built-in battery chargers to charge a battery
There is no separate PSU in Comfort
But if you just add a few UCMs these should not need an additional PSU as they do not require much current
Ah thanks, I see.
Is it correct that I should avoid drawing more than 850mA (12V DC) from the PSU and the best way to check is to place an ammeter in-line with the battery and fail the mains supply.
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juwi_uk wrote: I went through a similar exercise recenty and purchased an en03 and mounted it. I also thought that whilst I was at it I might as well buy a slave as well to cater for future expansion as they are pretty cost effective. I then purchased a power supply from cytech and a backup battery from maplins.
One thing to watch out for that hopefully cytech have fixed since was that the power supply didnt come with a fused connection block which they sent me shortly after.
I have my en03 populated with 3 extra ucms and doesn't seem to matter if I power from the slave power supply or directly from the rs485 bus powered from the main unit via ka/kb.
Hope this helps.
Julian
Thanks, I current have a non-standard "Comfort Home Controls" case containing just the LEM03 and an ADM01. My existing UCMs (x2) are external and I'd like to get everything into one enclosure if possible. I plan to have the following in addition to the mainboard.- ADM01
- LEM03
- UCM/Serial
- UCM/Eth
- UCM/Z-Wave
- UCM/GSM
So I'm thinking of getting a EN01 or EN03 to replace my existing enclosure, I'm just not sure whether all of that will fit in either enclosure. Also do you think I will be able to transfer the transformer from the old to new case?
Thanks again
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The ucms and lems are all the same size 108 x 88 mm
6 of these +Comfort will not fit into one enclosure
It is better to get another EN03 to fit the extra modules and have extra room to play around
You should not need an extra power supply
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ident wrote: The ucms and lems are all the same size 108 x 88 mm
6 of these +Comfort will not fit into one enclosure
It is better to get another EN03 to fit the extra modules and have extra room to play around
You should not need an extra power supply
Thanks
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