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ident Administrator
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The UCM/Heatmiser allows the integration of Heatmiser thermostats, both RS485 and wifi types, with the Comfort integrated Intruder Alarm/Home Automation System. Update/Warning Note that only Heatmiser products supporting the V3 protocol are supported by the Heatmiser UCM. The wifi thermostats have been discontinued and are replaced by models which are not compatible Please check which heatmiser products you would like to work with before deciding on the UCM/Heatmiser Heatmiser Thermostat shown above The UCM/Heatmiser has the following functions;
The UCM/Heatmiser with Isolated Rs485 interface is shown below. The UCM/Heatmiser with Eth03 interface is shown below The UCM/Heatmiser manual can be downloaded from http://www.cytech.biz/ucmheatmiser_manual.html System Requirements
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ident Administrator
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UCM/Heatmiser with the ETH03 submodule is required for Heatmiser wifi modules You do not need the Heatmiser Netmonitor Connect the Ethernet port MJ101 on the ETH03 to the Local Area Network (LAN) by means of a hub or switch using a parallel CAT 5 cable. The WiFi Heatmisers should be connected to the same network Comfort Server Manager (CSManager) software is used to configure ETH03 to have Heatmiser related settings. The software is included in Comfigurator 3.7.8 and above or can be downloaded from Cytech website at http://www.cytech.biz/comfort_server_manager.html In Comfigurator 3.7.8, go to Options > Settings > UCM Connections and select Network (Local). Click on the link for Comfort Server Manager. When the ETH03 is connected in the same physical network then Comfort Server Manager will automatically discover it. Ensure the Version has the word HM (for Heatmiser) i.e. Eth3HM-v1.04 for the current release. The ETH03 firmware for Heatmiser can be downloaded from http://www.cytech.biz/eth03_firmware.html Download ETH03-heatmiser.zip and unzip to a hex file. To upgrade to change the ETH03 firmware to Heatmiser, select the ETH03 IP address and click on the 'Upgrade' button on the bottom right. Select the downloaded ETH03-heatmiser.hex file 'Clear List' button clears the display on the Comfort Server Manager screen. The 'Discover Devices' button is used to discover any ETH03 module that is connected to the same network e.g. after 'Clear List' 'Reboot' button reinitialises the ETH03 module. By default the ETH03 is set as DHCP enabled. Uncheck the DHCP checkbox and enter the new IP and Gateway fields to assign a fixed IP address for the ETH03 module. Press the 'Submit' button to confirm. Routing Mode: Client (mode in use for Heatmiser) Port: 1001 (default) Target IP: The IP address of any one of WiFi Heatmiser module Target Port: 8068 (port in use in WiFi Heatmiser, this is fixed) Timeout: Not used in UCM/Heatmiser Last edited on Friday Aug 1st, 2014 06:28 am by ident |
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ident Administrator
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Principle of Operation The UCM/Heatmiser supports integration for up to 32 thermostats, 32 humidity/temperature sensors, and an outside temperature sensor (for RS485). Up to 8 wifi thermostats can be supported by UCM/Heatmiser with ETH03. Comfort can be configured to control and monitor certain parameters of Heatmiser thermostats by first mapping them to Comfort's Register (Counter, Flag or Sensor). Temperature is mapped to Comfort Sensors (0 to 31 in Ultra). Sensor values can be assigned as status feedback for Control Menu so that they can be heard on the keypad or phone or seen via the Comfort iPad/iPhone/Android Apps. A Comfort sensor can be mapped to only 1 Heatmiser temperature sensor to avoid conflict of values. Changing the Comfort sensor value will not have any effect on Heatmiser temperature reading. Temperature Setpoints are mapped to Comfort Counters (0 to 254 in Ultra). Counters can be assigned as status feedback for Control Menu so that they can be heard on the keypad or phone or seen via the Comfort iPad/iPhone/Android Apps. A counter can be mapped to only 1 Heatmiser setpoint to avoid any conflict of values. Changing the value of the mapped counter will also change the setpoint on the mapped Heatmiser Thermostat On/Off states are mapped to Comfort Flags (1 to 255). Flags can be assigned as status feedback for Control Menu so that they can be heard on the keypad or phone or seen via the Comfort iPad/iPhone/Android Apps. A flag can be mapped to only 1 Heatmiser state to avoid any conflict of values. Changing the value of the Comfort Flag will also change the state on the mapped Heatmiser State. Please download the heatmiser manual from http://www.cytech.biz/ucmheatmiser_manual.html for full instructions Last edited on Sunday Feb 2nd, 2014 10:40 am by ident |
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slychiu Administrator
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The Wifi Heatmiser thermostats have been obsoleted, replaced by "Smartstat" wifi thermostats. Please note that these are NOT compatible with UCM/Heatmiser. These products cannot be controlled Does anyone have any experience with interfacing wifi thermostats with UCM/Heatmiser? |
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palmlodge Member
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Is the UCM/Heatmiser (RS485) compatible with the Heatmiser v2 protocol - the PRT-EN units? |
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slychiu Administrator
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I know about the V3 protocol i compatible with UCM/heatmiser Not suree what is the diference with V2. |
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ComfortGeek Member
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Hi Could you tell me a little more about what this ucm lets you do with heatmeiser - ie can you do the same as if you were using their programmable thermostats? I have a heatmeiser system with 4 stats and wiring centre. For example, can I control all 4 via comfort? If so, is it done through the control menu? Ie whether using phone, app or keypad, you go to control menu? Can you for example do temperature up and down? Can you do hot water boost? Trying to work out if it’s better just to get their control centre so I can control everything from one point. Thanks |
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slychiu Administrator
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You can control the heatmiser by keypad using the control menu, by comfort app, byu time program etc However take note of the warning below; Update/Warning Note that only Heatmiser products supporting the V3 protocol are supported by the Heatmiser UCM. The wifi thermostats have been discontinued and are replaced by models which are not compatible Please check which heatmiser products you would like to work with before deciding on the UCM/Heatmiser They changed their protocol with the newer products so it is diffciult for 3rd party systems to keep up. |
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John W UCM Pi Users
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Has anyone tried the heatmiser v2 touchscreen thermostats ? I see that they have a modbus interface but the manual doesn't say what can be commanded or queried. If I were to pair this with a modbus UCM could i control it from comfort ? And if so, how might I control it using the comfort app ? Regards John.Ps sorry I thought I had created a new thread but now see it has gone on this pinned thread. Last edited on Sunday Dec 31st, 2017 12:52 am by John W |
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slychiu Administrator
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If they do have a modbus interface then you should be able to control by UCM/Miodbus and by Comfort apps You would have to know what Modbus registers they use |
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John W UCM Pi Users
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OK, thanks. I will contact heatmiser for details. |
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John W UCM Pi Users
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The heatmiser modbus protocol is download able from here: https://www.heatmiser.com/en/protocol/ |
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slychiu Administrator
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That is good. That means that you can use UCM/Modus-485 to control the Edge series |
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Ghyllwood UCM Pi Users
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Just a little confused. You say - The wifi thermostats have been discontinued and are replaced by models which are not compatible with comfort. Yet the manual still refers to the wifi and having the sub module option for ETH03. Also the ETH03 sub module is still referenced as an accessory for the UCM/Heatmiser on the the Cytec web site. Am I right in thinking all of the references to WiFi are no longer relevant to UCM/Heatmiser and that only RS485 connections are possible? |
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John W UCM Pi Users
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I might be wrong here, but I think the previous WiFi controllable variants aren't available now. Heatmiser now need you to have a neohub to control from their app, or use modbus. I've not figured out any other way, but I am no expert, just trying to update ours too. |
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slychiu Administrator
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Thats right, the wifi thermostats that could be controlled by ucm/heatmiser with eth03 have been discontinued so that is no longer an option, so that was a waste of time to develop We will have to amend the manual. |