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- Jocky - 09-03-2008
[font=\"Times New Roman\"][size=We are a co-operative building society who are considering buying the Comfort system to our gazebo, but have an important question about intergrating it with our doorsystem (from Aptus: www.aptus.se). ][/size][/font]
[font=\"Times New Roman\"][size= ][/size][/font][font=\"Times New Roman\"][size=To open the door ([size=2]http://www.aptus.se/pdf/Oppna%201121%20Produktblad%20Swe.pdf) we use a RF/ID-proximity tag. When door grants access, the door should disarm the system. Aptus has informed us that the system should handle external management for on/off if their system should be able to disarm/arm the alarm system. ][/size][/size][/font][font=\"Times New Roman\"][size= ][/size][/font]
[font=\"Times New Roman\"][size=If this is not possible it might be possible to use the same proximity tags we're using today to arm/disarm the system directly?][/size][/font]
[font=\"Times New Roman\"][size=When leaving the house, we guess the best way to arm the system (should be easy as we are 30 households) via a switch on way out. If someone forgets to arm the system might be able to arm byself after an hour of inactivity inside. ][/size][/font]
[font=\"Times New Roman\"][size=Our question is; can Comfort handle an external management for on/off? ][/size][/font]
[font=\"Times New Roman\"][size=How do I find a swedish or danish installer?][/size][/font]
[font=\"Times New Roman\"][size=Most grateful,][/size][/font]
[font=\"Times New Roman\"][size=Joacim][/size][/font]
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- slychiu - 09-03-2008
The aptus website seems to be in Swedish with no English version
I dont know exactly what you mean by external management
The access control system may have a dry contact output which gives a close contact pulse when a valid card is seen. This can be connected to an input on Comfort to disarm the system
You can arm the system using a keyswitch as you suggest, but it would be better to have a real keypad so that any open doors etc can be announced
If they forget to arm you can have a Time Program to auto-arm it or auto-arm when there is no motion for an hour as you say
Unfortunately we dont have an installer in Sweden or Denmark. One of the UK installers may be able to help you?
- Jocky - 09-03-2008
[font=\"Times New Roman\"]>The access control system may have a dry contact output which gives a close >contact pulse when a valid card is seen. This can be connected to an input on >Comfort to disarm the system
That is good, according to Aptus. They also wants me to check if that pulse could be 1 second in duration (that is what their system give) and that the same contact also arms the system on next coming pulse. (If not the keyswitch will on pressure give a signal that the system think it should disarm (when it should be armed).
There is also a need for an exit (a relay) at the alarm that gives a potential free (completely switched off) closure / mining. It should provide constant closure when system is disarmed and constant mining when armed. This is linked to an input on Aptus-centre who know of the alarm \"status\".
Thanks :-)
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- slychiu - 09-03-2008
Yes, the same contact can give another pulse to arm the system after it disarms
Comfort outputs can also drive a relay (RLY01) to give a dry contact status to Aptus to indicate the armed or disarmed state. This allows that system to know when to send a pulse to arm and disarm. This should work very well
- Jocky - 09-03-2008
Great news! Thnx a lot!
As we do not have an installer here in Sweden, is it possible to tell somebody what we want och then get a list of what to buy? So we don\'t miss any relay or cable etc. Which forum should I visit then?
We will then let a company, we normally use for installing Aptus-system, help us installing Comfort.
- slychiu - 09-04-2008
Can you email your requirements to sales@cytech.biz, so we can deal with this requirement offline?