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- jbarne41 - 11-30-2012

Hi,

Quick question first....I am I correct in assuming that with \'Day of Week\' 1 = Monday?

Also Still having problems with a response to Annouce a warning on Door Station 1 when PIR triggered in away mode.

Using the following Response :

If NightTime <> 0 And Timer R/H_Garage_Light = 0 Then
    X10 GarageR/HLight On
    Do RHDriveLightOff After 600 Seconds Using R/H_Garage_Light
Else
    Do RHDriveLightOff After 600 Seconds Using R/H_Garage_Light
    If SecurityMode = AwayMode Then
        Reminder 1 On Keypad 49
    End If
End If

If I change the response to announce in Day Mode or Night Mode then it works, but in away mode you don\'t get the reminder played.

I am presuming that the problem is that in Away Mode it is set to dial out and that due to the sytem being busy with the dial out it fails to announce?

I have also noticed that since I upgraded to Comfort ll, when the door bell is pressed, and I open the front door, there is a long delay before the \"Front Door open\" announcement. - Didn\'t get this on Comfort l, is this normal?

I am on the following:

Filesystem 34

Firmware 254

Version 5

Revision 172

I was advised that a Firmware update may cure this, but my UCM is too far from the Comfort Board at present, until I update the Firmware is there a another way to do this?

 

Regards

 

Joules



- slychiu - 11-30-2012

Yes Day of week 1 is Monday

Does the PIR cause an alarm in Away Mode? If so then it may well dial out before the announcement is made, since there is only 1 voice engine which can do one announcement or dial out at the same  time
If the PIR causes an alarm perhaps you can make it start an entry delay in away mode instead before the alarm

5.172 is quite old (2009) so it is difficult to know what that behaviour would be
 An upgrade is the best option There are many changes and enhancements in the current firmware

The advantage is that with firmware version 6, you will not have to be near the system to do an upgrade if you have UCM/Ethernet

Delays between door open and announcements could be due to other actions being performed, it depends how long you mean



- jbarne41 - 12-06-2012

Thanks for the reply.

The reason for checking the Day of Week numbering is that I wanted to set an announcement to reminder me which colour Bin by toggling a flag and using the Start arming response to announce the colour on leaving the house on the appropiate day. The response works fine, but again you don\'t get the announcement, I presume because the voice engine is busy as per my Perimeter PIR Problem.....any ideas on a work around? I only waht the announcement when the house is left on a certain day?

With regard to the Perimeter PIR, yes it has a dial out alarm set in away mode and I guess the voice engine is busy so you don\'t get the reminder on the Door Station. You suggest starting an entry alert before the alarm, what is the best way of doing this?

Regards

 

 



- ident - 12-07-2012

There is an action called Start Entry Delay which works when the system is armed. It causes an entry delay to start when the zone is activated

For the start arming problem, you may be able toi change the Response on the Away Arming button to do the announcement and start a delay for the arming.



- jbarne41 - 12-07-2012

Hi,

Yes, had seen the Start Entry Delay command......was needing some help with how to implament it in response(s).

Have written the following...haven\'t tested it yet, I still want it to do the dial out after the Warning reminder is played....will this work?.... your advice would be appreciated.

If NightTime <> 0 And Timer R/H_Garage_Light = 0 Then
    X10 GarageR/HLight On
    Do RHDriveLightOff After 600 Seconds Using R/H_Garage_Light
Else
    Do RHDriveLightOff After 600 Seconds Using R/H_Garage_Light
    If SecurityMode = AwayMode Then
        Start EntryDelay
        Reminder 1 On Keypad 49
        Do StopEntryDelay After 1 Seconds Using G_PIR_Timer
    End If
End If

 

Thanks



- ident - 12-07-2012

The Start Entry delay will work assuming it is part of a Zone Response
However the action

Quote:Do StopEntryDelay After 1 Seconds Using G_PIR_Timer

may not work to cancel the entry delay presuming that is what you are trying to do
The action \"cancel Entry Delay: can only be applied to a zone response. It serves to cancel an entry delay started by the zone and cause an immediate alarm





- jbarne41 - 12-08-2012

Maybe it would be easier if I Explained exactly what I am trying to do...

I want the outside PIR to trigger a reminder to be played on Door Station 1 when triggered in away mode and dial me to say it has been triggered. In any other Mode I want it just to turn a light on if it is Dark. The response is assigned to the Zone On.

Obviously as I have found, the reminder message will not be played if the system is dialing out and as you have suggested the way round this is to use an entry delay. I presume this is to delay the dial out so it gives the system enough time to play the reminder. (In other words stop the Voice Engine trying to do two things at once)

So I assume that if I as you say the \"Cancel Entry delay\" action will stop the Entry delay and cause an immediate alarm (with is set to Perimeter Alarm on that Zone, with Dial out and Idle State Set) the following response will dial out after 50 Seconds and hopefully give the system enough time to play the reminder?

If NightTime <> 0 And Timer R/H_Garage_Light = 0 Then
    X10 GarageR/HLight On
    Do RHDriveLightOff After 600 Seconds Using R/H_Garage_Light
Else
    Do RHDriveLightOff After 600 Seconds Using R/H_Garage_Light
    If SecurityMode = AwayMode Then
        Start EntryDelay
        Reminder 1 On Keypad 49
        Do StopEntryDelay After 50 Seconds Using G_PIR_Timer
    End If
End If

Hopefully I will get chance to test the response over the weekend.



- slychiu - 12-09-2012

I still dont have the full picture of your programming to be able to give the correct advise
eg I do not know how the outside PIR is programmed to dial out in Away Mode

Hence if it is already programmed to dial out in Away Mode, Start Entry Delay will not prevent the dial out.   Start Entry Delay causes an entry delay to an Intruder Alarm, which dials out. That assumed there was no dial out when the detector is triggered
So that advice is not appropriate due to insufficent information

I suspect you have the zone as a perimeter zone Away Mode which has a dial out for perimeter alarm  If that is the case then the detector will immediately dial  out when trigered in away mode

You can try to enable Dial Delay on this alarm type which will delay the dial out for this alarm only. However you need to try this as I have little experience with thew dial delay feature.

If you need further help it would be best to send the cclx file to support@cytech.biz