Version 4.1.0 Piced & Application 208

[mikegriff]

Hi C[user=1]hiu[/user]

Clipsal seem to have altered their use of Application 208 in Version 4.1.0 of Piced

How will this effect Comfort to Cbus implementation?

Just spent a couple of hours stripping out all references to \"Application 208\" in Clipsal software - I know I wasn\'t meant to use it! - but it used to work a treat! At least now all the lights have stopped flashing

Any way seems to have all changed now

Also wipes out Homegate < ver4 as this doesnt have the new system so cant be used with Ver 4+ Piced

Any thoughts?

Mike

[Howser]

[user=102]mikegriff[/user] wrote:

Hi C[user=1]hiu[/user]


Just spent a couple of hours stripping out all references to \"Application 208\" in Clipsal software - I know I wasn\'t meant to use it! - but it used to work a treat! At least now all the lights have stopped flashing
 

I had to do the same thing.

I am a bit concerned though, the GetStringIBSystemIO(\"Security Armed Level Name\", armLevel) in PICED 4.1.X does not seem to have the 4 alarm levels that Comfort has. It has (0 = disarmed, 1 = fully armed, 2 = partially armed).

[admin]

Actually we were not aware of this. We will install this new version and check out the implications

[admin]

The previous software for CTouch did not support the Security Application (208 or D0 hex) even though it was defined in the Cbus specs.
Comfort was the only product which used the Security Application. However the CTouch software (and earlier Piced versions) were able to use a workaround by specifying Application 208 and the \"group\" address for the security parameter

Hence this change is a positive development as the Security Application is supported directly and will make like easier. However the old templates will need modifcation. We will come out with a new template for Cytech/Comfort on C-Touch

[Sandeep Seeripat]

Hi

Where can I get the templates, as I have a problem that the new version of PICED does not recognize the Application 208. Do I have to upgrade my Minder Pro system?

[ident]

You need Piced 3.8.0 to use KT01. Piced 4 and above do not support KT01.

The links to Piced 3.8.0 and the Cbus tool can be found here http://www.comfortforums.com/forum46/257.html

[Howser]

[user=606]admin[/user] wrote:

Actually we were not aware of this. We will install this new version and check out the implications

So what are your findings?

We have one of the PICED SystemIO not responding as expected (discussed on http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3931), and I was wondering what your thoughts would be on this issue?

[slychiu]

This appears like a bug in PICED, if the older version shows the correct levels

[Ingo]

Chiu,

Here is what I am capturing on my CBus Diagnostic Utility while arming to Day Mode. According the the Clipsal guys there is one message missing and that is the reason they cannot determine to which mode Comfort was armed to. Can you please check to see if the, optional, \'Arm System\' message is being sent to the CBus side. I am running the latest UCM/CBus firmware as well as the latest production release of my Ultra II firmware.

The full explanation, from NickD, is available on the CBus forum.

Thanks,
Ingo

17:09:49  Tx : ~~~<CR>
17:09:49  Tx :  = Set Basic Mode
17:09:49  Tx : A3300051<CR>
17:09:49  Tx :  = Set Default Mode
17:09:49  Rx : 05123800010AA6<CR>
17:09:49  Rx :  = Local Network, Source Unit 18, Lighting, GA 10 Off
17:09:49  Rx : ~
17:09:49  Rx : ~
17:09:49  Rx : ~
17:09:49  Rx : <CR>
17:09:49  Rx : A3300051<CR>
17:09:49  Rx : 8600000032300018<CR>
17:09:49  Rx :  = Local Network, Source Unit 0, System Message
17:10:04  Rx :  = Local Network, Source Unit 18, Security, Security: Arm Not Ready : Zone 11 Not Sealed
17:10:05  Rx : 0512D0000A920D70<CR>
17:10:05  Rx :  = Local Network, Source Unit 18, Security, Security: Arm Not Ready : Zone 13 Not Sealed
17:10:07  Rx : 0512D0000A8A0B7A<CR>
17:10:07  Rx :  = Local Network, Source Unit 18, Security, Security: Zone 11 Isolated
17:10:07  Rx : 0512D0000A8A0D78<CR>
17:10:07  Rx :  = Local Network, Source Unit 18, Security, Security: Zone 13 Isolated
17:10:08  Rx : 0512D0000A8A1B6A<CR>
17:10:08  Rx :  = Local Network, Source Unit 18, Security, Security: Zone 27 Isolated
17:10:08  Rx : 0512D0000A8A1C69<CR>
17:10:08  Rx :  = Local Network, Source Unit 18, Security, Security: Zone 28 Isolated
17:10:08  Rx : 0512D0000A8A2C59<CR>
17:10:08  Rx :  = Local Network, Source Unit 18, Security, Security: Zone 44 Isolated
17:10:08  Rx : 0512D0000A8A3253<CR>
17:10:08  Rx :  = Local Network, Source Unit 18, Security, Security: Zone 50 Isolated
17:10:09  Rx : 0512D0000A8A3352<CR>
17:10:09  Rx :  = Local Network, Source Unit 18, Security, Security: Zone 51 Isolated
17:10:10  Rx : 0512D0000A8A3451<CR>
17:10:10  Rx :  = Local Network, Source Unit 18, Security, Security: Zone 52 Isolated
17:10:10  Rx : 0512D0000A8A3550<CR>
17:10:10  Rx :  = Local Network, Source Unit 18, Security, Security: Zone 53 Isolated
17:10:10  Rx : 0512D0000A8A364F<CR>
17:10:10  Rx :  = Local Network, Source Unit 18, Security, Security: Zone 54 Isolated
17:10:10  Rx : 0512D0000A8A374E<CR>
17:10:10  Rx :  = Local Network, Source Unit 18, Security, Security: Zone 55 Isolated
17:10:11  Rx : 0512D0000A92007D<CR>
17:10:11  Rx :  = Local Network, Source Unit 18, Security, Security: Arm Ready
17:10:11  Rx : 0512D00009818F<CR>
17:10:11  Rx :  = Local Network, Source Unit 18, Security, Security: Exit Delay Started
17:10:23  Rx : 0512D0007A80011E<CR>
17:10:23  Rx :  = Local Network, Source Unit 18, Security, Security: System Fully Armed

[Howser]

[user=1]slychiu[/user] wrote:

This appears like a bug in PICED, if the older version shows the correct levels

Since the introduction of Security Application SystemIO, this never worked.