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			<title><![CDATA[Partitions in Comfort]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2017 07:15:31 -0400</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[A description of the new Partitions feature in Comfort can be found here<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[A description of the new Partitions feature in Comfort can be found here<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Comfort and BS8243]]></title>
			<link>https://www.comfortforums.com/thread-4741.html</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2017 03:48:22 -0400</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Comfort is able to comply with British Standard BS8243 \"Installation and Configuration of Intruder and Holdup alarm systems designed to generate confirmed alarm coniditons\" for the purpose of signalling to&nbsp; an ARC (Alarm Receiving Centre)\"<br />
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This is possible without any Response programming by using the Status Outputs feature in Comfigurator<br />
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<img src="https://www.cytech.biz/images/screenshots/CF/statusOutput.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="" class="mycode_img" /><img src="https://www.cytech.biz/images/screenshots/CF/statusOutputs.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="" class="mycode_img" /><br />
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This allows any outputs to be assigned to the Status functions required for connection to a communicator like Redcare or Dualcom<br />
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The application note \"Comfort and BS8243\" which shows more details about this can be downloaded from <a href="https://www.cytech.biz/product_details.php?item_id=492" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.cytech.biz/product_details.php?item_id=492</a><br />
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Note that this works with Comfort 2 Firmware version 7 only, not Comfort 1<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Comfort is able to comply with British Standard BS8243 \"Installation and Configuration of Intruder and Holdup alarm systems designed to generate confirmed alarm coniditons\" for the purpose of signalling to&nbsp; an ARC (Alarm Receiving Centre)\"<br />
<br />
This is possible without any Response programming by using the Status Outputs feature in Comfigurator<br />
<br />
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<img src="https://www.cytech.biz/images/screenshots/CF/statusOutput.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="" class="mycode_img" /><img src="https://www.cytech.biz/images/screenshots/CF/statusOutputs.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="" class="mycode_img" /><br />
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This allows any outputs to be assigned to the Status functions required for connection to a communicator like Redcare or Dualcom<br />
<br />
The application note \"Comfort and BS8243\" which shows more details about this can be downloaded from <a href="https://www.cytech.biz/product_details.php?item_id=492" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.cytech.biz/product_details.php?item_id=492</a><br />
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Note that this works with Comfort 2 Firmware version 7 only, not Comfort 1<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Monitored alarms]]></title>
			<link>https://www.comfortforums.com/thread-2337.html</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 16:27:00 -0400</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[I am posting this on the forum to make people aware that we have applied for approval with the SSAIB to become an accredited alarm installer.<br />
<br />
It may be beneficial to Know that we have tested&nbsp;a comfort unit using a&nbsp;test account at a central monitoring station in the UK and I can confirm that Comfort was able to be set up with ease using contact ID and all the tests that we conducted were satisfactory.<br />
<br />
I think that in the past the monitoring side of comfort has been over looked as it was&nbsp;thought to be complicated and expensive. .........<br />
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The fact is that Comfort does NOT require STU or digital dial out units added on - it will simply dial out over the phone line. This makes comfort a very attractive proposition if monitoring is a requirement.<br />
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&nbsp;<br />
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I am posting this on the forum to make people aware that we have applied for approval with the SSAIB to become an accredited alarm installer.<br />
<br />
It may be beneficial to Know that we have tested&nbsp;a comfort unit using a&nbsp;test account at a central monitoring station in the UK and I can confirm that Comfort was able to be set up with ease using contact ID and all the tests that we conducted were satisfactory.<br />
<br />
I think that in the past the monitoring side of comfort has been over looked as it was&nbsp;thought to be complicated and expensive. .........<br />
<br />
The fact is that Comfort does NOT require STU or digital dial out units added on - it will simply dial out over the phone line. This makes comfort a very attractive proposition if monitoring is a requirement.<br />
<br />
&nbsp;<br />
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Monitored alarms - an update]]></title>
			<link>https://www.comfortforums.com/thread-2229.html</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 15:17:40 -0400</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[It appears that this subject has not been addressed for some considerable time.<br />
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Firstly is there a default file .cclx&nbsp; for setting up remote monitoring. the old <br />
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<a href="http://www.cytech-technology.com/temp/software/PD6662.cct" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.cytech-technology.com/temp/so...PD6662.cct</a>&nbsp;link goes no where.<br />
<br />
Secondly outputs 1 -8 need to tie up ideally physically with 1-8 of the communicator - do you have a listing of the output functions.<br />
<br />
Thirdly do you or deoes anybody else have a ccl or cclx file that has actually been set up and is working that they would like to share with us?<br />
<br />
Forthly the available documentation from previous links is now several or more years old is it still relevent?<br />
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&nbsp;<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">[color=\"#ff0000\"]Note by Admin: The link is at <a href="https://www.cytech.biz/compliance_with_en5013_pd6662_and_bs8243.html?category_id=126" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.cytech.biz/compliance_with_e...ory_id=126</a><br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[It appears that this subject has not been addressed for some considerable time.<br />
<br />
Firstly is there a default file .cclx&nbsp; for setting up remote monitoring. the old <br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.cytech-technology.com/temp/software/PD6662.cct" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.cytech-technology.com/temp/so...PD6662.cct</a>&nbsp;link goes no where.<br />
<br />
Secondly outputs 1 -8 need to tie up ideally physically with 1-8 of the communicator - do you have a listing of the output functions.<br />
<br />
Thirdly do you or deoes anybody else have a ccl or cclx file that has actually been set up and is working that they would like to share with us?<br />
<br />
Forthly the available documentation from previous links is now several or more years old is it still relevent?<br />
<br />
&nbsp;<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">[color=\"#ff0000\"]Note by Admin: The link is at <a href="https://www.cytech.biz/compliance_with_en5013_pd6662_and_bs8243.html?category_id=126" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.cytech.biz/compliance_with_e...ory_id=126</a><br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Keyfob Required for Setting/Unsetting under EN50131????]]></title>
			<link>https://www.comfortforums.com/thread-1589.html</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 02:55:36 -0400</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[I have heard from several installers&nbsp; in the UK that the EN50131 or PD6662 requires a keyfob to be used to set and unset the alarm system, and that Comfort thus in unable to comply to the regulations.<br />
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This has never made any sense at all to me for obvious reasons. Does anyone honestly believe that this is a more secure method than alternatives?<br />
<br />
Cytech has declared that Comfort does comply to EN50131 and PD6662. Could we have made such an error in missing out a key requirement like this?<br />
<br />
We have re-read through all the&nbsp; regulations to find the exact clauses which mandate the use of keyfobs. After this search we conclude that there is [color=\"#ff0000\"]<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">NO such requirement in either EN50131 and PD6662</span>[/color]<br />
There is NO mention of such a requiremnent at all. Please enlighten us if anyone can find otherwise<br />
<br />
<br />
In DD243:2004, \"Installation and Configuration of Intruder Alarm Systems Designed to Generate confirmed Alarm Conditions - Code Practice\"<br />
Section 6.3 states that the Means of Completion of setting should be one of the following;<br />
<ol type="1" class="mycode_list"><li>Shunt Lock fitted to Final Exit Door</li>
<li>Push Button switch fitted to final exit door</li>
<li>Door contact fitted to Final Exit Door</li>
<li>PACE ie Portable Alarm Control Equipment, ie keyfob</li>
</ol>
(1) can be installed easily and connected to a Comfort zone to arm and disarm<br />
(2) is achieved using Exit Terminator on a zone or Door station<br />
(3) is Final Door arm <br />
<br />
[color=\"#aa0000\"]<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">A Keyfob is only one of the 4 allowed options, and not mandatory</span>[/color]<br />
<br />
The misconception that a keyfob is a requirement must have been a misunderstanding or misinterpretation of the regulation which has been spread through the industry, and&nbsp; I believe is causing great damage to the industry.<br />
<br />
L Y Chiu<br />
Director<br />
Cytech<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I have heard from several installers&nbsp; in the UK that the EN50131 or PD6662 requires a keyfob to be used to set and unset the alarm system, and that Comfort thus in unable to comply to the regulations.<br />
<br />
This has never made any sense at all to me for obvious reasons. Does anyone honestly believe that this is a more secure method than alternatives?<br />
<br />
Cytech has declared that Comfort does comply to EN50131 and PD6662. Could we have made such an error in missing out a key requirement like this?<br />
<br />
We have re-read through all the&nbsp; regulations to find the exact clauses which mandate the use of keyfobs. After this search we conclude that there is [color=\"#ff0000\"]<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">NO such requirement in either EN50131 and PD6662</span>[/color]<br />
There is NO mention of such a requiremnent at all. Please enlighten us if anyone can find otherwise<br />
<br />
<br />
In DD243:2004, \"Installation and Configuration of Intruder Alarm Systems Designed to Generate confirmed Alarm Conditions - Code Practice\"<br />
Section 6.3 states that the Means of Completion of setting should be one of the following;<br />
<ol type="1" class="mycode_list"><li>Shunt Lock fitted to Final Exit Door</li>
<li>Push Button switch fitted to final exit door</li>
<li>Door contact fitted to Final Exit Door</li>
<li>PACE ie Portable Alarm Control Equipment, ie keyfob</li>
</ol>
(1) can be installed easily and connected to a Comfort zone to arm and disarm<br />
(2) is achieved using Exit Terminator on a zone or Door station<br />
(3) is Final Door arm <br />
<br />
[color=\"#aa0000\"]<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">A Keyfob is only one of the 4 allowed options, and not mandatory</span>[/color]<br />
<br />
The misconception that a keyfob is a requirement must have been a misunderstanding or misinterpretation of the regulation which has been spread through the industry, and&nbsp; I believe is causing great damage to the industry.<br />
<br />
L Y Chiu<br />
Director<br />
Cytech<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[EN03 Tamper Mounting]]></title>
			<link>https://www.comfortforums.com/thread-813.html</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:32:59 -0400</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[The recent lot of EN03 metal enclosure for the control panel had the tamper mounting&nbsp; holes too large for the tamper switches on both the brackets for the lid tamper and the base.<br />
This causes the tamper switches to be loose. If the EN03 that you have has this problem, we will replace the EN03 when we receive the parts from the factory<br />
Apologies for any inconvenience caused<br />
<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[The recent lot of EN03 metal enclosure for the control panel had the tamper mounting&nbsp; holes too large for the tamper switches on both the brackets for the lid tamper and the base.<br />
This causes the tamper switches to be loose. If the EN03 that you have has this problem, we will replace the EN03 when we receive the parts from the factory<br />
Apologies for any inconvenience caused<br />
<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[BSIA  - New Website]]></title>
			<link>https://www.comfortforums.com/thread-535.html</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 09:36:24 -0400</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[&nbsp;<br />
<br />
Browse the site or look at this list of documents there:<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.bsia.co.uk/LY8WQ972528" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.bsia.co.uk/LY8WQ972528</a><br />
<br />
Nigel<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[&nbsp;<br />
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Browse the site or look at this list of documents there:<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.bsia.co.uk/LY8WQ972528" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.bsia.co.uk/LY8WQ972528</a><br />
<br />
Nigel<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[EN50131/PD6662 article]]></title>
			<link>https://www.comfortforums.com/thread-349.html</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:22:40 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[An interesting view from a UK&nbsp; Installer on the effect of the new regullations here;<br />
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<a href="http://www.security-installer.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=0&amp;amp;storyCode=3075011" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.security-installer.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=0&amp;storyCode=3075011</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[An interesting view from a UK&nbsp; Installer on the effect of the new regullations here;<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.security-installer.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=0&amp;amp;storyCode=3075011" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.security-installer.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=0&amp;storyCode=3075011</a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comfort and the european regulations]]></title>
			<link>https://www.comfortforums.com/thread-134.html</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 06:28:12 -0400</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi eveyone,<br />
<br />
great product - I had alot of fun playing with them at the CEDIA expo.<br />
<br />
Is there any news on the comfort products becoming EN50131 accredited?&nbsp; We\'re SSAIB registered but we would really like to install the comfort products as it provides a great mix of homeautomation and security services<br />
<br />
Cheers<br />
<br />
Jon<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi eveyone,<br />
<br />
great product - I had alot of fun playing with them at the CEDIA expo.<br />
<br />
Is there any news on the comfort products becoming EN50131 accredited?&nbsp; We\'re SSAIB registered but we would really like to install the comfort products as it provides a great mix of homeautomation and security services<br />
<br />
Cheers<br />
<br />
Jon<br />
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