Remove X10 from Comfort?

[ident]

It has been suggested that X10 is obsolete and should not be included in new Comfort hardware.   There are hardly any suppliers of X10 products, the technology is too old and too unreliable.

However the firmware will continue to support X10 for existing users with Comfort

Any comments from the Comfort community? Who wants to continue using X10 on new Comfort systems?

[wexfordman]

I removed x10 from my system a couple let of years ago and went completely with velbus. Was delighted to get rid of x10,more because of the improved reliability and functionality of velbus.

Couple of months later I reused to ad10 modules in my shed cos I could wire to it.

So, why remove it, you can still get modules, and it is handy for those awkward places to reach. I know other wireless solutions are available but that means having to install a ucm dedicated for it.

[Home]

YES REMOVE IT FROM THE MAIN PCB

I am sure that there must be an X10 RS232 interface that people could purchase.

What did happen to X10 di they file for bankruptcy AND why are X10 product still being sold - does anybody still manufacture them?

[Ingo]

I assume if the X10 circuitry is removed there will be space for something else, right? What are you guys planning for the future?

[ident]

perhaps a built-in ethernet interface?

[juwi_uk]

I guess it is one thing removing the interface from the main pcb (strange it was ever there in the first place so assume pre UCM times) and another to remove support in firmware.  I\'m guessing the firmware needs chipset support that is x10 dedicated rather than using generic hardware on the pcb?
I\'m also guessing a lot would still be using and wouldn\'t want to be frozen on the last firmware that supports x10.  Can something like ucm/universal be setup to support if you did do this as a replacement? 
I can liken it to the switch from xp to win 7/8 and people needing time to switch.
Julian
Personally I switched to Zwave a while back!

[slychiu]

The support in firmware would have to remain for those who are already using x10
If there is a serial interface to X10, then the universal could be used
X10 was part of the Comfort PCB since the beginning in 1996 even before it supported keypads.It was the 1st widely used home automation device
But I doubt many new x10 products are sold now
It is being sold by Marmitek http://www.marmitek.com/en/products/home...mation.php
Interestingly the website says


[size=\"3\"]X-10 Home Automation [/size][size=\"3\"]Make your home a house of the future - today![/size]

[Ingo]

I like the Ethernet idea. More space for other UCM\'s in the enclosure then :-)

[Guest]

I have CBus for 90% of the lighting and other stuff, however there is no CBus device which I can use to control lamps which are plugged in to a power socket, so I have to use X-10, distasteful as it is.

If Schneider were prepared to launch their wirless devices in the UK all that would change however.

[ident]

Zwave is a better alternative to X10
If you have a few devices that should not cause any problems