ZWave-2 acting as sensor relay

[Vangelis]

I am running an HA solution that uses an Aeon Labs ZWave stick to receive and transmit ZWave cmds.

I was wondering if the Comfort ZWave-2 UCM can act as a sensor relay, say for instance a PIR that is hardwired into Comfort is tripped - Can I, via the ZWave-2 UCM, send out a ZWave cmd that my HA solution receives, and can use as a Trigger for instance?

Vangelis

[slychiu]

Yes You can send zwave commands to any zwave module when a zone is activated
Use the Zone Response for the PIR zone to send your Zwave command or commands to the desired module, eg to turn on lights

[Vangelis]

OK - So trying to set this up and this is what I have currently...

Comfort Ultra II ver 7.065
UCM 2 ZWave ver 7.061

I am trying to have Comfort send a ZWave signal to my HA (Indigo) when a hardwired sensor (PIR) is triggered.

ZWave Mapping is as follows ....

Device-ID Description
1 Static_Controller - PC_Controller (Light Grey)
2 Routing_Slave - Routing_Sensor_Binary (Black)
3 Routing_Slave - Routing_Sensor_Binary (Black)
6 Static_Controller - Static_Controller (Blue)
7 Slave - Switch_Multilevel (Green)

When I sync\'d my ZStick S2 with Comfort it picked up Devices 1,2 and 3. I then created a Virtual Node and I think it created Device 7?

With my ZStick S2 plugged into my HA (Indigo) I can see 006 - Static_Controller

All looks good so far, so I then try and setup a Response in Comfort as above in this post...

So under my Lounge PIR I create an On Response of

Zwave BasicSetCommand UCM02 1 0 255 (where on is level 255). I then do the same for an Off Response and set off level 0

I then have a look at the ZWave Mapping Properties for Device-ID 6....

Description : Static_Controller - Static_Controller
Node Type - Basic
Listening - Yes

Now I was under the impression that if Device-ID was going to send a Zwave signal when Lounge PIR tripped and generated On Response, it would not be set to Listen???

I confirmed this with the other Binary Sensors and they are set Listen - No

So I guess my question is, what am I doing wrong here?? (btw i am writing to EEPROM as I go)

Vangelis

[leonchue]

Vangelis wrote:

Now I was under the impression that if Device-ID was going to send a Zwave signal when Lounge PIR tripped and generated On Response, it would not be set to Listen???

Quoted from UCM/Zwave manual page 18. 

\"Listening
This indicates if the slave is a Listening Type. Listening means that the slave is always powered on and so can be polled by UCM/ZWave. If the slave is not listening, it may only turn on periodically like a motion sensor or temperature sensor. Non-listening devices will not be polled.\"

Whether the device is set to listen or not, it is determined by the device manufacturer.

[Vangelis]

My question is more if \'6 Static_Controller - Static_Controller (Blue)\' is the correct ZWave device to be seen in my HA?

In that it see\'s Comfort as \'6 Static_Controller - Static_Controller (Blue)\' and will \'Listen\' for cmds from it?

Also is the \'Zwave BasicSetCommand\' the correct way, in Comfort OnResponse, to send a ZWave cmd?

Vangelis

[leonchue]

Are you asking if UCM/Zwave is Device ID 6?  
It should be, as it is in blue.  You can always double check the field \"Node ID\", under \"UCM/Z-Wave Properties\" tab.

As UCM/Zwave is always powered on, its \"listening\" field is \"Yes\".  This means that the device will not go into sleep mode (which stop receiving commands) and always listening for commands.

\"Also is the \'Zwave BasicSetCommand\' the correct way, in Comfort OnResponse, to send a ZWave cmd?\" 
Yes, that is how Zwave commands are sent.  

But in your case \"Zwave BasicSetCommand UCM02 1 0 255\", it is sending to ID 1 (Primary controller).  You are trying to switch on a controller and it has no meaning.  

If you are trying to update a device status, the only way is for the controller to poll for the device status.  See http://www.comfortforums.com/forum62/4065.html for more details. 

[slychiu]

Can I summarise these 2 threads for everybodys benefit

What you are trying to do is the have a comfort zone (eg PIR) to act as a Zwave node so that when the zone goes on and off, the corresponding zwave node turns on and off.

You have created a virtual node 7 - Switch Multilevel (green) in Comfort

A virtual node is a zwave node that is in Comfort instead of a real zwave device. A  Virtual Node can be mapped to counter, sensor, flag, output etc in Comfort

The easiest way to achieve what you want is to map the virtual node to a Flag eg Flag 1

In Zone Response, set the Flag 1. In Zone Response Off, clear the flag 1

Hence zone turning on will set the Zwave Node 7 ON and the zone off will switch off the Zwave Node 7. This means that the Zwave Node 7 follows the  state of the comfort zone.

The controller or other zwave device needs to poll the zwave node in order to know the state of the Comfort zone

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[ewenjc]

I\'ve been trying to set this up but I\'m stuck.

I have a flag on a virtual node that is getting set when a sensor triggers but I can\'t get my primary controller to poll the virtual node. I have a Fibaro HC2. It shows the poll time as 0 but won\'t let me set a different value. Could this be because it doesn\'t \'own\' the parameters of this node - it is owned by comfort. Has anyone with Fibaro HC2 got this bit working?

It puzzles me that there is not some way for comfort to send a zwave message in the same way that actual zwave sensor devices send a message. I have a Fibaro door sensor that can send a message to the zwave network (and primary controller) to say it has changed state. It doesn\'t have to be associated with another device or be polled. Why can\'t comfort send a \'changed state\' zwave message?

Ewen

[leonchue]

\"I have a flag on a virtual node that is getting set when a sensor triggers but I can\'t get my primary controller to poll the virtual node. I have a Fibaro HC2. It shows the poll time as 0 but won\'t let me set a different value. Could this be because it doesn\'t \'own\' the parameters of this node - it is owned by comfort. Has anyone with Fibaro HC2 got this bit working?\"

HC2 polling parameter does not belong to Comfort.  We cannot control how often they poll.  Maybe you can check with HC2 why this is so.



\"It puzzles me that there is not some way for comfort to send a zwave message in the same way that actual zwave sensor devices send a message. I have a Fibaro door sensor that can send a message to the zwave network (and primary controller) to say it has changed state. It doesn\'t have to be associated with another device or be polled. Why can\'t comfort send a \'changed state\' zwave message?\"

This has to do with Z-Wave operations.  Sensors can do that, but not all.  
Comfort\'s virtual node is certified as multilevel switch.  Like other devices, they cannot perform like the sensor way.  It is not that we do not want that.

[Vangelis]

I thought this mode of operation would have been supported also, but alas it seems not to be the case. (which renders my UCM/Zwave module obsolete for my purpose)

The alternative is to splice in a Fibaro Universal Sensor to the hardwired PIRs etc to create the ZWave cmd for my HA system to receive.

Vangelis